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Old 04-08-2010, 08:47 PM
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Ok, now I have to buy a video camera.
This will take me a month of practice to begin to comprehend in my swing. And since I teach until June 21st, why not?

OB, my handles are very large as I was aspiring to Moe Norman nirvana before TGM reality set in. My larger index finger knuckle is aft (3 o'clock) and the smaller knuckle is at 5 o'clock almost directly underneath the shaft.

I believe in lag pressure. Check

Drive or Drag. That makes sense!

Because my man J. Savage, GSEB, showed me the beauty of balance and traceing the plane line, I was able to swing (my version) today, and also RFA takeaway, left-hand pull karate chop right arm drive today. Down the middle with a little fade. Not as long as the swing but easier on my frame. What a dependable way to play, though!

Thanks, OB, I will save this along with Kevin's docs and experiment and learn!

Patrick

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So you had the knuckle on the top of the grip and the first joint on the aft? Is that what you mean?

But for all good players there is Lag Pressure sensed in the hands at some point or other. Whether they acknowledge it or not. A lag pressure consistent with their chosen Lag Loading procedure. Drive or Drag. 10-19.


I'd venture that a strong right hand grip wouldnt have allowed Hogan to Drag Load like he did , not for that long anyways. That he'd have started to push a little given that his elbow wouldnt have been so pitch and when the Left Hand rotated off the Inclined Plane he'd have released earlier. Something those other pros you mention probably do and quite effectively too. Nothing wrong with a Sweep Release.

In short the physics associated with the manner in which we apply force to the handle reveals itself in the alignments we display. Show me a Pitch elbow and Ill show you a knuckle riding on top (most likely) as it just goes with bending the shaft along the Top /Bottom axis during Drag Loading, Active Left Wrist, Left ARm Flying Wedge, Swinging etc. Show me a Punch elbow and Ill show you a grip aligned for pushing (most likely) bending the shaft along the For/ Aft grip axis, the Right Arm Flying Wedge. Homer recommended a 10-2-B grip in either case but in the field you see variety. Grip changes are hard to make for a seasoned golfer.


How do the pros train their #3? Id say that by and large without even knowing of the #3pp, they associated a feeling in their hands with good contact. A feeling that comes and goes but something they seek out. Something they discovered as kids probably. What is that feeling? Lag pressure as well as the other pressure points too. They all speak to us, tell us their different stories. The #4 tells us about how the pivot is doing, the #2 about the Left Hand wrist cock etc. Some guys, especially the ones with "trigger fingers", would have a strong sense of what we'd call the #3pp. The others just have it despite the fact they dont really think about it. Id imagine, I dunno.

With Hogan's grip you get the knuckle and the first joint ,one on Top one on the aft. Ready to take the load and sustain it, direct it as you bend the shaft sequencialy along its two axis, if you wish to. I can imagine not loading along the top/bottom axis at the knuckle but every good golfer senses lag at the first joint or there abouts. Thats the top of the Sweetspot Plane, the Longitudinal Center of Gravity. Without it the clubhead has passed the hands. Ill have to ask my cross handed buddy about what he feels and where. If he can articulate it. Whenever I ask him about things like that he starts to talk and then just says "aw.......I cant describe it, forget about it". He can pipe line it though.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post

OB, my handles are very large as I was aspiring to Moe Norman nirvana before TGM reality set in. My larger index finger knuckle is aft (3 o'clock) and the smaller knuckle is at 5 o'clock almost directly underneath the shaft.

Patrick
Hmm, maybe we are getting our wires crossed. Im talking about the knuckle at the base of the index finger, the one you'd punch with. That is on top of the shaft in Hogans grip. This is the number three pressure point in its swingers, rotated position, the one you load when drag loading. The other #3 pp location is associated with radial acceleration, through impact or for drive loading is the first joint , the crease just below the knuckle of the index finger, which Hogan aligned on the aft of the shaft. One index finger , two lag pressure points , one on top , one on the aft. Both at the ready to sustain the lag and direct it.
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:25 AM
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Thanks, OB, I will save this along with Kevin's docs and experiment and learn!

Patrick
Patrick,

You are now in great hands with your AI. If you find things in those documents you like, clear it with your teacher before you try to incorporate into your swing. You guys are developing a great plan, don't allow it to be derailed by other ideas that may not fit your puzzle!

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